Most of them
Preferring looks over functionality.
So many things in today’s world are dogshit covered in a pretty wrapper and everyone eats it up. Meanwhile things that actually work well and last get ignored because they’re not pretty.
I’m not saying things can’t be pretty but you should never put form over function.
How some people have to constantly get into someone else’s business that doesn’t have any negative affect on their lives or society and try to force the latter to conform to the former’s worldview. Religion is notorious for this, demanding others conform to the ideology’s rules even if they have no desire to participate or believe, but it can also be as simple as being critical of someone’s differences and trying to make them change.
I can’t understand someone that want to attack another country, go to war, just to take some piece of land. And then want to die for this reason.
People should just learn that you can’t get everything they want in life and deal with it in a good way.
The people declaring the war are not the same people fighting the war.
Tell that to the capitalists running the world
just to take some piece of land
That’s not really what wars are about though. It’s usually some internal power struggle.
It used to be about that.
To add to this, I can’t understand how a bunch of people can so-easily be whipped up into a frenzy to “go kill those people because glory or something” and don’t feel how they’re being manipulated.
Like when some autocrat wants to play chess with peoples’ lives, it’s really surprising how there’s not really many (if any?) documented cases of people just being like “Huh, sounds like a problem for Lil’ Bitchard the Twelth to solve like a big boy doesn’t it? I’m not dying over your silly disputes.”
I guess that’s why it’s usually a first step to reinforce oath-taking and thoughtless nationalism into culture as quickly as they can…
A group of humans need to pass through a doorway with two doors. The leading human opens one of the doors and passes through the doorway. The next human follows them through the open doorway, and so does the next, and the one after them. The humans bunch up around the one open door, funneling themselves through it rather than opening the other door right beside it.
Then I, the smartest and best of humans, make use of my divine and otherworldly gifts to open the other door that was right there the WHOLE TIME. Truly I am a gift upon the world. Someone should give me chocolates.
Sometimes that door is locked and not everyone wants to bother with checking
was leaving an event somewhere once, don’t remember what/where, but everyone was holding the door for the next person so it didn’t slam on them, very slow progression. I finally got up to it and kicked down the stopper. people can be very unobservant or dumb, sometimes both.
People out here stating obvious human problems and I’m out here like: why do humans like Chocolate?
Over compensating when an injustice is learned. We don’t change anything meaningful, it seems, and when this happens, we create a whole new problem
People being mean or cruel to other people or living things just to see them suffer. I don’t understand it.
Watching other people play (computer) games. I get watching live competitive matches like e-sports. It’s watching the solo gamer on twitch that I don’t understand why it’s entertaining.
I’m kind of the opposite. I don’t quite see the appeal of people watching physical sports if you’re not partaking.
I sometimes like watching videos like this as a way to relax.
I watch a certain gay furry play games I will NEVER play myself but want to enjoy the story/gameplay of without having to do it myself, like Dark Souls 2 or Celeste.
Polar opposites exist. Letting a brain melt into stew watching whatever reptitive thing that’s happening happen can be relaxing for the holder of said brain. It’s like a pureé of thoughtless goopy wonder. Truly an experience to behold…
Also, competitive gaming is like the nerd equivalent of sportsball. Not bad or anything, but a lot of peeps tend to assume “I like exercise that’s fun,” means “lets have a battle-to-the-death-style sports game.” The same concept bleeds into gaming.
There are several ways it can be fun, and you do have one of them.
- Competitive games/eSports. These are fun to watch exactly like football or basketball is, the skill it takes to play the game.
- Speed or challenge runs. Kind of related; imagine watching a skilled mountain climber climb a mountain looking to set a world speed record or something like that. Challenge runs aka “can we do this” can be fun as well. People are drawn to that kind of story, and video games are often a safe yet compelling place to contrive that kind of scenario.
- Venue for an entertainer. Sometimes the audience isn’t really there for the game, they’re there for the player. The game is a backdrop for an impromptu comedy performance.
- To experience the game when unable. Catching a Let’s Play of especially an old game that’s out of print can be a way to experience that game if you don’t have the ability to set up an old console, or if an online game has shut down, or if you just don’t have the time. You might watch it while cooking or eating or doing some other task if you can’t find time in your life to actually play.
How do people willingly confront their most traumatic experience again and again?
A very light one, but “Gotta have it all” attitudes in video games.
I too, remember the Gamecube days when the console didn’t connect to the internet, and if there was anything to unlock in the game, it came from hitting buttons really well. We’re now in the days where the glittery, shiny purple armor (with the same armor stat) sometimes costs money. And yeah, quite often it’s more money than I’d say it’s worth.
I guess I just don’t get the people who still get a bunch of “cool” things in the game, but still feel angsty and frustrated because they don’t have everything - because they haven’t completely cleared their minimap of every objective, gotten a platinum achievement, or grabbed that one pointless thingy that only shows up through RNG.
I tend to experience a “majority” of games that I enjoy, and that already is enough to absorb a lot of my time. For games that have DLC content, I might buy one or two skins I like, and still spend less in total, inflation-adjusted, than I would on one disc back on my gamecube.
I finished a playthrough of Tomb Raider and got all secrets, pickups, and kills when I was 13, just FYI.
(Thank you, game magazine walkthrough)
In games like Warframe, it’s cause I can feel like I’m achieving something with my life, even though I’m a pathetic failure of a human being
The need some people have to be part of a group.
I’ve been “alone” for such a long time that it probably affects how I see things like this, but I just don’t get the need some people have. I’m thinking from things like worshipping a politician just to be part of a group to more simple things like needing to insert yourself into a group at work just to be “one of the guys.” I’ve always just done my own thing and never considered myself part of anything, whether friend groups, work “cliques,” or whatever. If it was “Tim, Tom, and Tina” I could be friends with all of them, but I never felt like I needed to be, or even ever was part of “their” group. I just come and go as the situation arises.
Some things like politics I obviously fall into one category or another based on my beliefs, but I don’t conform or alter my beliefs just to maintain a position within that group.
Impersonal revenge. I understand the overwhelming emotions when it personally happens to you and needing that “payback”. Not that i support it, but i understand it and I’m pretty sure I’d feel the same at the moment if it happened to me. But when it’s people you don’t know, and you still seek “justice”? There’s no justice in increasing cruelty in the world. It only makes the world worse, not better. I think a lot of prejudices, like racism and such, evolve from this way of thinking, and our civilization would be a better place if we stop our revenge centered thinking. Hurting someone because they hurt you or others is weird to me. There are so many other ways to punish people without hurting them without a benefit other than “it makes me feel good to see them hurt because they’re bad people”.
Becoming very invested in watching strangers play games for money.
I used to think this, still kinda do. I get nothing out of watching sports. But just the other day I was talking to a friend who coaches football, she said she likes it because it’s similar to chess. There are near limitless combinations of plays and each…segment, down, ball thing, I don’t fucking know football, is another move. I’m not going to watch football but I appreciate her perspective
Yeah but people don’t dress up in ugly logo covered clothing and face/body paint and spend millions and millions of dollars to build and fill up specialized stadiums with screaming fans to watch strangers play chess.
A game is a game. The actual stakes are basically the same when I play Mario Kart on my couch as when a couple dozen dudes in tights smash into each other in the cold at the sports balls stadium. There’s a winner and non-winners and the outcome means basically nothing to the people spending money to watch and wear their overpriced matching fan attire.
I think they have fun.
Not that i engage in this particular variety myself, but this kind of activity typically gets more fun the deeper you dive in. I generally only watch esports, but the more i care about the outcome of a game, and the more i understand of the game, the more fun it is to watch. I can think of no better way of caring more about a game than siding absolutely with one of the teams and betting money on their victory.
You ever go to a sports game? Lol
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“Haha I was only pretending to be stupid”
Not really. People get paid for being the best at something. Thats not the same as, for example, watching people play poker, where the only objective is winning money. E-sports has the same money issue where someones excellence at a game is sullied by the fact that most of the competitions are measured by their prices pool. As if being the best at something isn’t enough anymore.
I’m going to be the ‘tenth dentist’ here and say eating spicy food.
I understand that eventually people build a tolerance so it hurts less but I can’t comprehend being willing to even reach that point, especially since it’s still not completely pain free I have been told.
Those I’ve asked say it’s a really good flavor, but to me that sounds like being willing to eat a handful of broken glass (assuming no long term damage) as long as it tastes good. There are other foods that taste good and don’t hurt, not even slightly.
I see where you’re coming from, but you have to consider - THAT is how good it tastes, that people are willing to eat it even though it hurts. Other foods taste good, but I wouldn’t eat them if they hurt me (if my teeth are sensitive, I’m happy to avoid ice cream even though I love it). But if I overdo chilli, my mouth can be on fire and the hardest part to deal with is not the pain, but the tension between waiting a minute for it to calm down or eating more immediately even though it’ll make the pain worse.
Spicy food is so good people will put themselves through hell to eat it. Repeatedly.
Huh. Yeah, still can’t imagine a flavor that good.
And even very mild spicy food strikes me as less flavorful than without the capsaicin, mostly because of the (even slight) pain taking my attention from the food itself.
I used to love spicy food. I’d frequently deliberately seek out the spiciest foods possible. Now I prefer actual flavour.
If your spicy food has no flavour other than heat then that is a chef problem. Thai food has incredible levels of flavour. And is also very spicy.
Nah, my focus of interest has just shifted.
For me, eating spicy food calms me down. I suffer from anxiety and eating spicy food allows me to exist only in the here and now. I am of course not saying that everyone who eat spicy food is anxious, it is only my personal preference.
That almost makes sense to me, the same way something like slapping one’s own face might.
Normalise self harming with chili powder /s
It doesn’t hurt if you don’t go too hard though, in my experience. To me at least hurting and burning sensation from spicy food are not the same.
Especially in Mexican cuisine chilis have each their own flavour and it’s this distinction that I enjoy. But I don’t go crazy on eating sole habaneros for example.
Sounds like you have built up a decent tolerance already.
That’s quite likely. I can’t really be objective in assessing this.
However my story is a bit different. I didn’t eat a spicy thing in my life until I went to Mexico. They I’ve immediately started with the carnitas and loved the soft from the get go. I don’t really recall the pain stuff. Again, unless I went way too much, which I don’t like.
Plus spicy isn’t even a flavour. It’s the sensation of heat receptor nerves being chemically stimulated.
I fully agree, to me it doesn’t add any flavor at all and even overwhelms other flavors the food would have.
But it’s kinda funny that the comment my client currently shows directly below yours says “The pain itself is a flavour!”
IIRC it produces endorphins, though for a significant amount of folks not well enough that they’ll subject themselves to it.
That part doesn’t make sense to me either - people don’t generally intentionally stub a toe or bite their tongue or whatever, but those activities would release endorphins also.
Exercising is about as close as I can think of that people regularly do and releases endorphins, but it of course has direct benefits and not doing it has drawbacks, and it should not really hurt that much to begin with.
Getting a tattoo would also, but I assume most people do that for the result and not the experience.
It’s funny you mention tattoos - my favourite part was the huge endorphin rush it produced. I’d wager the whole tattoo ‘addiction’ thing tattoo artists and the heavily inked are familiar with is usually endorphin based, with aesthetics serving as justification.
You’re right about stubbing a toe or biting your tongue, but there are other activities people engage in that involve a direct seeking out of pain (Drag’s in this thread talking about an unfortunate one, then there’s stuff like certain activities in BDSM play [which, a surprising amount of the time, isn’t always a precursor to sex], etc.). With enjoying really, really spicy stuff, there’s the stimuli [pain], the endorphin release, and the justification and side effects that may bolster justification (‘flavour’ even in cases where little is actually detectable beyond ‘mouth hot’; satiation after getting food in you, etc.).
I’m just some random guy speculating (I’m sure there’s studies somewhere, though tricky to do direct research ethically), but I imagine it goes something like this for a lot of folks in a lot of contexts:
Stimuli -> Pain -> Dopamine release. If dopamine response is greater than pain response, is a good thing (then justified with reference to specific stimuli and context of stimuli). If pain response is greater than dopamine response, is a bad thing.
…reading it back I think specific type of stimuli, context, and the subject’s predilections are very relevant to this calculation, but not a psychologist or neurologist, so idk.
I like this theory, I wonder if liking spicy food is often correlated with enjoying activities like BDSM and tattoos and such.
I could just have roughly no response to endorphins - I know pain killers such as oxycodone do basically nothing for me (to the point that I don’t bother taking them when prescribed)
That would kinda explain a few things now that I think about it… Very interesting.
Are you allergic or something? It’s not that it hurts, it’s just heat
Just sensitive. There’s an extremely small range between nothing and pain where maybe it feels like heat to me, but then physical heat also just becomes pain when there’s enough of it.
I am a masochist
I’m actually curious if you mean that literally - in another thread we came up with a theory that enjoying stuff like BDSM, etc and enjoying spicy food could actually be linked by how sensitive someone is to endorphins.
I’m likely not at all sensitive to them, so for me pain just doesn’t lead to pleasure (besides trivial things like scratching an itch)I do enjoy the feeling of pain but it’s not particularly sexual tbh, if I had to compare it to something else I’d say it’s a sort of sensory seeking thing? Idk
I find that really interesting - and can’t relate to it at all. I suppose if what I do counts as sensory seeking it goes in the opposite direction (I mean porn) but pain is definitely a pure negative for me that I do my best to avoid.
I think there might be something to the endorphin theory (and my apparent lack thereof)
The pain itself is a flavour! Different spices hurt in different ways, and if you can build up a tolerance, it can be a delicious flavour!
Statements like that make me feel like an alien who just landed here: I believe you, but it’s so totally outside my experience that I genuinely can’t make sense of it.
I honestly used to be the same, the only reason I pushed through and built a tolerance is because I had strong salty food cravings when I started HRT. I was staying at a friends place and for salty all they had was a ton of spicy ramen packets, and I ate so much I got used to it, heh.
It’s a (mostly) healthy way to engage in self harming behaviours
