So I can still state a corrigendum? Cool.
Corrigendum: That’s supremely fucked up, and anyone that advocates for that deserves to be punched in the dick by a thousand prize-fighters.
Religion is poison
And people wonder why Islam is the most hated religion in the world
Before 1968, many Southern US states put the age of consent at 14, and with the parents’ permission it could be as low as 12.
Cultural norms change, and religion is always behind the times. But fuck anyone thinking it’s still OK.
western propaganda, specifically from right winger and christianity, your percieving fundamentalist of any religion as a wrong thing
Here’s a hint, buddy all religions are like this not just the Muslims, Google how old Mary was when she had Jesus, but you don’t fucking care, none of you pedo dip shits do
I couldn’t give a shit about Christianity, I was born in Hindu country but I’m an atheist. It’s okay to hate one religion more than others, thinking all are equally bad in the modern world doesn’t make you special.
No. They are all bad
This is a single post, hardly “Reddit”.
The Karachi subreddit lol
Yeah, I was gonna say, this is a community moderator not a site admin.
Imagine if your greatest prophet was a child rapist
It’s called MAGA.
Dude, Mary was between 12 and 16 when she gave birth to Jesus. And don’t get me started on the story of Lot and his daughters in the Old Testament.
Between OP and the comments, what a stupid fucking post…
Yeah, and? Almost like christianity sucks too, who would have thought
It’s almost like all abrahamic religions are bad…
Tainted by the Demiurge.
At the very least, their extremist adherents are certainly responsible for some of the worst atrocities of the modern age.
This post is still garbage though
Mary was also a virgin though
Sure she was, friend
I mean according to the story told to the followers. It’s a lot better imo than in Islam where Aisha was six at the time of the marriage and nine when they had sex…
Then again Mary is a character in both religions’ stories
Maga can imagine
“U.S. states - As of July 2025, child marriage is legal in 34 states.”
4 states have no minimum age (effectively 0).
2 states have a minimum age of 15.
20 states have a minimum age of 16.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age
Aisha was six when she and Muhammad were married. I’m not sure it really compares
One ex of mine got married at 17, another at 18 (Appalachian milfs and I have a thing for each other). Neither decision was good, and people may think it’s only a year, but the difference is drastic. At 18 you’re legally an adult, but at 17 you aren’t. At 17 you lack rights that your adult spouse has, like to file for divorce and to open bank accounts independently.
The minimum marriage age should be the age of majority and I don’t care if your culture dislikes it. If you don’t trust someone is old enough to sign a contract, why are you letting someone sign that contract? If they aren’t old enough to purchase pornography, why are you letting them enter into a legal commitment with a sexual component? If they can’t legally independently demand divorce why are you letting them marry at all?
We had to put a line between child and adult somewhere and 18 seems a pretty good place, but crossing that line grants an immense amount of freedom and independence.
You can soon vote in the UK at age 16
I’m generally cool with that. I hope they can sign contracts at that age too if they’re allowed to marry
If you’re going to allow marriage below the age of majority, emancipation should be included. It makes a terrible idea just slightly better.
Too immature to be allowed to drink. Mature enough to raise children.
Yeah, no. Marriage should be 21 and up.
Nah I’m in the make it all 18 camp
Appalachian milfs and I have a thing for each other
Thanks, I blew air out of my nose harder than usual.
Glad to be of assistance lol. I used to joke that I don’t have a type but a type has me
Let’s be honest here, the United States aren’t the standard they claim to be.
You European? They don’t have a leg to stand on here. Marriage age is buck wild over there! Europe! What’s up with that?!
If not, check your country! Bet money that neither marriage nor age of consent is pegged at 18.
Indeed surprising for me, the trick being that it’s not 18 when considering “marriage with parents and judicial approval”, which are probably pretty rare but definitely possible in way more countries than i would have bet
Mostly the same in the US, most of the states that are 18 below require parental consent. Still not awesome but it’s not like a bunch of teenagers are getting married willy nilly.
Allowing children to be sold off as child brides with parents consent is not an improvement. Especially since they cannot legally get divorced until they are 18
French Canadian.
Ah! 16 across the board. I assume that’s national not provincial law?
Anyone who knows anything about the US would never claim such a thing…
Only people claiming this are suburban trash living their sheltered life who need to feel superior after reading something like this.
This country is littered with pedophiles and 48 year olds who say “age is just a number!” Just before they marry a 14 yr old.
Anyone who knows anything about the US
Knows this.
You are the one who is mislead my friend
I think you’re arguing with someone who completely agrees with you.
That Wikipedia article is very poorly written and seems to contradict itself in the same paragraph multiple times. But I’m not surprised that the main locations for child marriages are Appalachia and the Jello-Belt. Backwoods hicks and ultra rural Mormons are the two main demographics i correlate with child marriage.
Check age of consent laws for American states. Find that outrageous? LOL, next have a look at Europe.
If it’s legal to have sex with a 16 or 17 year old, it’s legally consistent to allow marriage.
You are working under the assumption that the consequences of sex and marriage are the same. Much of the world doesn’t agree, as per your list.
I’m thinking we agree? In any case, the age of majority, marriage and consent are all over the place on this Earth, and almost all are under 18. Again, if you can fuck you should be able to marry, to be legally consistent.
You both need to check Aisha’s age before even comparing US or Europe to it
Classical Islamic sources state that Aisha was six at the time of her marriage with Muhammad and nine at the time of its consummation.
I’m well aware, just commenting on modern age laws perhaps being crazier than most people know.
I guess being from Europe I don’t find the numbers particularly crazy, at least considering the context
Don’t be duped by fairy tale stories of any variety that seek to shackle your mind.
I prefer to follow the “half your age + 7” method in finding out the youngest age of maturity your partner should be.
Maybe, but I’m 30 and honestly don’t want to date anyone younger than 25.
You’re allowed to do whatever you want lol, it’s not strictly saying you have to consider everyone half your age plus 7. If you only wanna date people older than you that’s fine too, it’s whatever.
207 for me. Makes sense, I’m told I’m an old soul.
Damn man, you’re old as fuck. What was it like growing up in the mid 1700s?
Hmm… Yeah… So because children were raped 1400 years ago, some loser cuck should be entitled to rape children today?
Sure buddy, age is just a number and the wood chipper is just a place
remember, feet first
This seems like a subreddit rule. Has Reddit ever ruled specifically for or against this?
I have a weird take that will give me downvotes.
In the US we grow up with 18 being an adult and consent for most things (driving is the exception and why I say “most things” )
I don’t agree with marriage under 18.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I’m in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
If you’re in a country where underage marriage is acceptable, and you move to the US, then it is unacceptable.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I’m in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
You sure about that?
Classical Islamic sources state that Aisha was six at the time of her marriage with Muhammad and nine at the time of its consummation.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I’m in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
If its harmful to people then yes, you should. Child marriage, raping children, lack of women’s right, and murding LGBT is not acceptable, I’m not going to sit here and say “oh it’s their culture so it’s okay”, it’s fucked up and yes, they should change.
Okay but who decides if its harmful? Plenty of peoole get married at 18-20 and it fucks them up. Plenty of insanely rich old dudes marry 18 year olds. Does that mean we should increas the marriage age?
What about if we had people from another cukture that thought people werent adults until 30? Since that is justifiable as your brain is still developing until around that age. Would you then describe anyone that marries someone in their 20s as raping children?
Hoards of scientific evidence decides if it’s harmful.
No law is ever going to be perfect, but perfection is the enemy good here.
It’s pretty well researched, understood, and established that your average 9 year old has so much more critical mental development they still need to undergo than your average 18 year old in order to become functional adults, regardless of what actual official age we define that as being.
Yes, some 18 year olds may still be taken advantage of, abused, hurt etc., but those 18 year olds, on average, will have a much better chance of defending themselves from and overcoming the damage done by an abusive “suitor” than the average 9 year old would. That is both physically and mentally.
In this case, I think it is a good albeit imperfect law as it serves the majority of the people and cases. Of course there will still be those outliers it fails to protect, but it is still a “net good”.
Wow, defending child marriage… Not a good look.
Actually the opposite, im so against child marriage i think marriage under 30 should be illegal. Dont you think the same?
I think people generally agree with you, but there are limits to what people will tolerate anywhere. For instance if Rwanda made a law requiring Hutus to murder of Tutsis, most people would say that’s unacceptable even in Rwanda.
There’s obviously a bright line between ok and not ok in that example, but for marriage it could be a little more unclear. Sure, maybe a 17 year old marrying a 19 year old is ok in some places and not others, but overall no one will probably be that upset about it. However, a majority of the world has a problem with a 50 year old marrying a 10 year old. Where exactly the line is crossed is open to debate, but pretty much everyone agrees there should be a line. Most countries are picking 18 as that line because it’s better to have an imperfect choice rather than none at all.
Almost all age of consent laws and marriage laws (not finding a good map on this one) start well into puberty. Pretty funny seeing all the 18 countries right next to “no age” countries.
And the US is all over the place! I could hop any of 3 state lines and bangin’ a 16-yo is fine. Meanwhile, at home, 17 would see me in a concrete and steel box. Weird. Of course our laws make Europe look positively rapey, if one believes 18 is some moral, hard limit. Guess it’s no surprise our laws are more puritanical.
I could hop any of 3 state lines and bangin’ a 16-yo is fine
Funny enough, hopping the state line to do it is not so fine…but if you happen to be in the state for a different reason…
Yep! Suddenly, TRAFFICKING! So weird living in such a huge country with so many conflicting laws. I have to check myself carrying a pistol across state lines!
Are any other countries like this?! Fuck me. Federal, state, county and city laws can all be contradictory.
I dislike the fact that your completely reasonable and understandable position which essentially boils down to “local laws and customs differ, so we must all follow the laws of the local land for who am I, an outsider, to cast my judgement upon others” is factually and correctly labeled as having a weird take.
Because anything that coukd be vaguely linked to pedophilia becomes part of the moral high horse content where if you dont take on as extremly negative opinion as someone else, well then youre obviously a pedo or defending pedos. So there can exist no nuanced discussion on any issues like this because people will see it and jump on the chance to show everyone how morally superior they are, by having a more extreme opinion on it than the other guy.
Only 10 US states peg age of consent at 18. Most are 17 a several are 16.
Check Europe’s age of consent and age of marriage laws.
If teens getting married or fucking bothers anyone here, have a look at your own laws before casting stones at the US.
Only 10 US states peg age of consent at 18. Most are 17 a several are 16.
Only if you’re straight. Many states have different laws on age of consent for gay sex.
Under 18 needs parental consent.
Nope. “Age of consent” means anybody can fuck anybody at that age. Parental consent can be a thing with marriage laws. Don’t know much about the particulars there.
I’m talking about marriage… You’re adding in sex for some reason. Nowhere in any conversation has anyone said anything about having sex with someone under 18…
> give me downvotes
Okay
I didn’t read your take but imma guess it’s popular opinion
Its not really a culture issue though. In the US we decided on 18 because that’s the age it is believed that people can make decisions for themselves. Personally I think it should probably be higher. In other countries that have a lower age of consent don’t do it because they think the kids are mature enough to make that decision. They do it because they view the kids as similar to slaves who have to do what they are told. If it is a culture thing, then should culture be enforced through threat of death i.e. honor killings? They just use culture as an excuse to be shitty.
You just slammed everyone in Europe, excepting, ironically enough, Turkey.
Sure. I slammed anyone who thinks kids are mature enough to marry. There’s plenty of states here in the US that fit the bill too.
If you’re pegging “kid” at under 18, you’re against almost every law on the planet.
So I am. In my opinion people should wait even longer than that. I remember when I was 18. I was an idiot just starting to learn about how to live in the world, and I’d say a significant percentage of the people my age were more reckless than even me. Any big decision one has to make at that age is at best uninformed.
I was a moron as well! Still am! OTOH, I’ve read things I wrote back in high school thinking these views would be childishly naive. Nope! I was more mature than I gave myself credit for.
Made friends with the neighborhood kids, pretty much on accident. When they were 17-21 they’d hang on a Saturday night and talk and debate and argue and have a blast. I was stunned at how smart and experienced they were! I’ll never misjudge young people again. Who was the fool to underestimate them? Me.
FFS, at 17 we were fucking like rabid hamsters, at the height of the AIDS epidemic. Not like we were clueless. Sex was a life and death affair, but we managed to be safe, navigate that danger along with all the other crazy shit tied to human sexuality. LOL, the stories I could tell. One of the nerdiest girls in school, “Have you tried tying your gf up?! My bf fucked my brains out strapped to his bed last night!” Kids? Hardly.
We all have to grow up, make those painful mistakes, learn. I’m certain you agree. But dialing that age out older and older and older is a mistake. What chaps my ass are those who make young people out to be idiots, idiots incapable of agency. I will not take that from them. I will not disrespect them so.
Religion aside, I have a solid argument for child marriage. Funny that no one who espouses the idea ever brings this up.
Being married gives one a lot more legal options and rights. Say an old man marries a young cousin so as to grease the wheels on his inheritance. Americans often marry so the other party can get health insurance. As with inheritance, the child could realize property rights they would not have access to.
Point being, people get married for reasons outside of love and sex.
Another thought, as socially conservative as we Americans are, it’s a wonder no politicians run on moving state marriage and consent ages to match our nationwide age of majority (18). Maybe it turns out to be a poisonous talking point? Can’t imagine anyone arguing, out loud anyway, for teen marriage. Weird.
Why not adopt the child instead? It bestows far more protection on the child, including protection against sexual abuse. It has every other advantage that marriage would have.
Another thought, as socially conservative as we Americans are, it’s a wonder no politicians run on moving state marriage and consent ages to match our nationwide age of majority (18). Maybe it turns out to be a poisonous talking point? Can’t imagine anyone arguing, out loud anyway, for teen marriage. Weird.
No, we do have Republican representatives who do openly argue for lowering the minimum marriage age. Like…a lot. All the fucking time, really
This happens so often I can’t even give you a list of names… And I have no idea why no one seems to talk about this
Also, they get caught with CP or kids a lot. Lot of venom diagram overlap… Go figure
Didn’t mean conservative politically, meant to comment on our overall sexual and social conservatism. America is, and always has been, weirdly Puritan.
Being married gives one a lot more legal options and rights.
Where? Because it’s not like that anywhere I know of. At best you get some small tax breaks. Certainly no more rights or legal options other than those purely related to marriage. Like being able to get divorced.
Ever been married? Sure seems to grease a lot of legal wheels, makes life easier, like it’s the “default” position in life. That’s all I meant.
I think the inheritance part is true, if your spouse dies and you have joint ownership of the home and bank accounts, they’re not being inherited, you already fully own them
You can do this without marriage, but you can’t do this for the purposes of tax avoidance… If you give your child joint ownership out of nowhere, you’ll need to explain why if the IRS starts asking questions. And there are valid answers, like if they work the family farm or business, it does make sense that they should gain ownership as their responsibility grows. Things can also be gifted for less tax obligations or put into a trust (and those rules are very wonky), but this is a simple traditional practice
But with marriage? You can claim “this is just how we do marriage, we have joint finances”, and that is an accepted cultural behavior in most places. You can do it immediately, and it offers legal protection as well… For things such as medical malpractice, only the negligent party is exposed, so you cut the maximum amount that can be collected to your combined ownership/2 - primary home and other basics
Granted, I think “but this way we can cheat the system and pay less taxes” is a terrible rationale for child marriage…
please as a quranist don’t generalize us with sunnis
Sorry but: No god no master!
