Kudos. Rarely does an image capture the whole story as well as this one does. Indeed. Of course it makes those of us who remember the good old days feel some grief.
“Yeah but how is lemme any different?”
Because you can’t really ban someone from a lemmy instance. The userbase is the type of people to get around rules like that if they want.
you can, but let’s ignore that for a moment.
so you got banned from a community on lemmy, eh?
just go join another community with 8k less users and has a new post once every four weeks.
I suppose you could post more on that community, right?
oops, looks like the mod there is the same one that banned you with an alt on a different instance. you’re banned here as well.
lemmy is isn’t immune to the corruption on Reddit because it’s a different platform. it’s corruptible because the users are all from Reddit.
humans are trash, that’s why we need to shift how moderation functions online.
You absolutely can ban a user from an lemmy instance.
I actually got banned from this community on my old lemm.ee account under the same username. So I don’t make actual posts here. Idk if I’m even technically supposed to be commenting, so 🤫
Even so, Lemmy is nothing like what Reddit has become. Any platform is susceptible, but Reddit is now controlled by people who are out to prove a Fred Phelps like point about free speech. If you can’t say whatever you want, whenever you want, to anyone you want, go out of your way to ruin it for everybody and die miserable and alone.
Even if that does end up happening here, somebody else will just build back something new and a little better to replace it.
Fascists complained for decades about being censored on the internet and in that time what did they actually do? Did they actually build their own alternatives that anybody wanted to use, or did they just scheme and claw their way to the top to take over what somebody else made and force what they wanted on to everyone?
It’s true, they’ve basically made just about every popular internet platform unuseable in like 9 months, but that has also driven more people to just seek alternatives, and other people to focus on building them or making what already exists more user friendly. So when people just stop using that garbage, what happens to all those paid sponsors? Do they just keep paying to advertise to no one?
The dead internet theory just kind of assumes that people will want to keep using these platforms to witness bots argue instead of interacting with other people, but I can’t even really scroll through Reddit or Substack anymore bc I know there’s better content somewhere else that isn’t being controlled to keep a narrative going.
I tried to look for a very specific topic on YouTube yesterday, and got so frustrated with only having an endless stream of short clips of influencers instead of the one thing that I actually wanted, that I ended up just making an account on peertube. There’s not much content on there (yet), but the small amount that is there is sooo much more interesting than 99% of the garbage being force fed by YouTube.
I’m pretty sure that’s actually how capitalism is supposed to work when a “free market” isn’t being completely controlled by oligarchs. Like if this product sucks, and this other product is available and better, why would I keep using the shitty product unless somebody is tightly controlling the market and not allowing any competition?
I was talking to somebody yesterday about how being forced to switch to open source platforms has actually made me somewhat more optimistic for the future in general. Once somebody destroys something you love, it’s just gone. It sucks, but there’s a good chance you’ll probably never get back what was destroyed. You can’t go home again, but you can always try to rebuild something new, and make it a little better than before.
Til they come back with hundreds of alts because being banned was such an offense to them.
Yeah, Lemmy is different, reddit is hell. Lemmy is a little irritating, but Reddit is full of cops and fascists
Want to know what’s fucked? People on Reddit are openly advocating for Concentration Camps and the Mods have ID gated subs like alcoholics anonymous but if I bring up things like the leader of a sitting political party not only saying we should fund the Taliban with tax payers money but presenting it as a flagship policy for this party, I get my comment removed and my account shadow banned.
That’s where we are on Reddit right now.
Their Contributor Quality Score is basically the social media equivalent of a Social Credit Score. Not like karma, it’s a whole other system that demands you produce content for them or get shadow banned. It’s bonkers.
Jesus that’s Dystopian.
I mean it wouldn’t be the FIRST time an inexplicably beloved and dementia ridden Republican has funded the Taliban.
I was referring to the UK. IIRC Farage is very much a monarchist.
Subs are ID gated because of laws like the Online Safety Act in the UK. Yes I had to contact my MP about that. The government apparently care more about concerned moms than they do about the opinion of actual technical people or freedom of speech.
The government apparently care more about concerned moms than they about the opinion of actual technical people or freedom of speech.
You are the first person I have actually encountered in any discussion of the OSA who mention “concerned parents” because I don’t think they’re getting enough blame for what the OSA has done. Like they’re constantly either running articles like “The OSA would’ve saved my child’s life” or “The OSA doesn’t go far enough” and they have been the the crux of the whole shitshow from day one.
Like we know Data Collectors, Social Authoritarians, and Government Spies have been the people doing most of the leg work but I don’t think it would have passed if not for the years of “think of the children”. Even the parents of Brianna Ghey, the murdered transgender teen, is saying that “if we had the OSA, my child would be alive”, ignoring the fact the mainstream press and the government itself played a bigger role in her death than the internet ever did. The current fucking prime minister MOCKED TRANSGENDER PEOPLE in front of Brianna’s father along with the then Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
Yeah it’s a shitshow. Honestly makes me glad I don’t have kids. I don’t want to think about the ridiculous opinions I might collect just by being a parent. It’s like how parents who used to sniff lines and shag 9s suddenly want their teenagers to be celibate and not even touch cannabis. It’s honestly so bizarre. Like if having kids makes you this crazy you probably shouldn’t have them.
Should? We’ve been funding al queada…
AA is Id gated? what?? I’m pretty sure I’ve just posted on that subreddit within the last month and id never give it my id. not to mention it’s fucking anonymous.
I straight up don’t believe you
Yeah, so fun fact: a lot of support group subreddits were blocked under the OSA. Some were unblocked, but the point still stands.
The reason why they got blocked is that, when you look at sections 60 through 62, it’s actually really vague and could block a lot of dark, distressing but necessary content. Like children’s charities have voiced concerns over this. A forum for single dads and forums for people with certain medical conditions in the UK have had to shut down, and some sfw subreddits have been age blocked for LGBT content.
Also, there are two parties who effectively decide what gets blocked: The website and the Government, and the Websites don’t want to get in trouble with the government so they overblock. Some people have used the OSA for propaganda purposes, for example, the OSA gives an exemption for news media, so you can talk about things like Jimmy Savile and terrorism, but Twitter blocked posts that would be legal under this exception to claim it was the government who did that.
On top of that, it’s the websites and services who have to run the age checking service, which is why a lot of sites have shutdown or geoblocked the UK, because they don’t have the money or resources. In short, the law is vague and service providers had to overblock to cover their arses.
what does any of this have to do with AA
Because some of the age gated subs included help forms for alcoholics.
I’m not sure how that’s different at all to Lemmy. This place regularly hands out bans and removes shit all the time.
The difference is here it is actually a human and you can reason with them. Reddit banned me because I reported CSAM being sold on the site too often and made too much if a stink about this.
I disagree entirely for many, if not most communities. I also have my doubts about Reddit banning you for CSAM. There is more to it than that, or you just were extremely inaccurate.
I was perma banned from reddit for reporting an ICE raid… reason? Promoting race based hatred.
I’m not saying the auto bans haven’t gotten out of control. I’m just saying I don’t believe they were banned for reporting CSAM.
I’d believe it.
And you can Look Up everything in the Mod log and complain about the ban on other instances. Or even host your own instance.
Practically that doesn’t change the end result. You’re still just creating a new account and evading bans. You still have to deal with. Ml people right? Did bitching about it in discord do anything?
You can migrate entire instances to new domains if you want to go crazy with it.
Complaining about the ban does about as much good on Lemmy as it does on Reddit.
That said, the anti-multiaccount checks are far worse on Lemmy than on Reddit.
Why is Reddit used for anything but porn these days?
It’s where people are. If you want to have any commercial success on the internet you almost need a presence on places like Reddit and Twitter
You don’t need quantity. Just quality.
Sometimes quantity is a quality.
Not really, that’s more a human perception. However in modern media strategies, quantity is always better. Getting a foothold in some form of audiences is more crucial than the content.
Like genuinely this is why tiktok and short form videos invaded the internet space rapidly. Vine was for entertainment and creative outlets but this modern interpretation is more about reach.
Cast a net in a specific spot to capture the largest fish or cast multiple nets at multiple spots to catch any fish. One has better odds of outsurviving the competitors. Each a roll of the dice in hopes of virality.
Any of those nets could be the big fish, even if a smaller chance.
Once you are fed and once you have your audience, you will appreciate quality. That does not mean your audience will and it is often the disheartening part of art. Your quality will not be understood but by those of the same path, it often doesn’t inspire or teach and instead just becomes additive.
for many video games it’s the primary or even only place the devs communicate
either that or twitter which is frankly an even worse cesspit
Coding also, and computer science
Is it all that much different to Lemmy instances?
100% different since one company owns all of reddit. No one owns all of lemmy.
At least on Lemmy I can go create my own instance and not have corpo mods forced into it and me forcefully removed. I’d much rather have that with 4 other members than a massive community I risk being ousted from for dumb bullshit any day
A short video on the subject:
Talks about ex Mods that have since either been defeated, or have just changed their names. “Cyxie”, “Gallowboob”, “Merari01”, “Siouxsie_siousv2” and “Awkwardtheturtle”.
Reddit post talking about Cyxie’s account being deleted:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/gk569a/cyxie_account_gone/
Fuck reddit.
Gallowboob being a mod in retrospect makes a lot of sense. Fucker was probably taking content, reposting it and deleting the original constantly.
Holy fuck the comment section of that video.
“CIA trannies”, references to Terry Davis’ “Glow in the dark n*****s”, etc. Someone mentioned Ghislaine Maxwell potentially being a mod and “wonder who all these people are IRL”, got replied with the singular word “Jews”.
Honorable mentions: “Nazi-communists”, “left-wing echo chamber” (uh why did I keep getting shown conservative and the donald when I browsed logged-out then?)
Its like a microcosm of US media in general.
Lemmy has that same problem, maybe even worse since our user base is way smaller
I do think federation mitigates that problem somewhat. There are blocks between servers but its harder to exile users from posting on a third space that’s not blocked.
No because almost all the accounts here are people and it is unlikely there ate many psy-ops going on here unlike Reddit.
Were you here for US election season? Because there were piles of astroturf comments pushing a don’t vote narrative, with activity vaguely correlated around Moscow’s time zone. And they all shut up and disappeared right after the election.
And you could tell the difference between the psyop trolls and the genuine tankies, because the tankies are still here doing their tankie stuff.
I permabanned reddit with these additions to my hosts file:
127.0.0.1 old.reddit.com
127.0.0.1 www.reddit.com
Fuck their astro-turfed corporate censorship.
It’s better to use 0.0.0.0 which cannot be routed. 127 will connect to servers on your local machine, if they happen to exist.
the advantage is that one day he might set a self signed SSL and redirect the request to libreddit
Me: This video of a POS attacking a sleeping person (literally drop elbowing him in the head with the potential of snapping the neck) on the NYC subway with malicious assault says more about all of the people watching and filming while doing nothing about it than the attacker.
Reddit: You are permanently suspended from Reddit.
3 days ago.
Well, you referenced the potential death of a human which their advertisers definitely do not approve of. Luckily for them, the mods caught your horribly violent comment before it could reach the masses. The fact you were only permabanned, and not charged with a crime against humanity, is a blessing indeed!
Please be careful in the future when using words that might make someone else feel something, especially if that person (who you don’t know) might have to face an uncomfortable reality. It’s only fair that we censor genuine human expression in the name of brand image. After all, the advertisers are what’s keeping the lights on around here. If we stopped listening to their demands, god knows what kind of horrible society might emerge.
This happened to me about a week ago
And then somehow my account got banned for 3 days
And then once the ban was up Reddit let me know that they’d looked into it and found nothing concerning
Hey dude, he’s an attorney threatening to shoot people on the internet. If you legitimately know who he is, go see an attorney. He’s fucked and you can get some money. I am literally the only person in my immediate family who is not an attorney, and I worked in a legal-adjacent field for a long time.
🤣 ssshhhhhsh hunny, adults are talking.
Gotta love automated banning
I seem to be somehow shadowbanned in r/politics, and anyone can see from my history I’m lefty as fuck. They’ve gotten so arbitrary that they can’t even do partisan subs properly any more.
Or maybe r/politics isn’t left-wing any more and have closed ranks around Democrat Neoliberals? Haven’t stayed around for long enough to find out. Only ever visit now when I’m not paying attention and my finger slips.
No one hates lefties more than lefties seem to hate each other.
Jesus being an idiot conservative has just got to be the easiest fucking thing.
They have closed around center right as overt racism is tolerated and pointing it out is suppressed.
I got banned from worldnews because I asked for a less biased source thanThe Tablet on an Israel post.
So glad to be out of that cesspool.
Me too, fuck reddit
My first Lemmy acct was banned for wrong think in a specific instance. It can be shitty here too. Not like Reddit. But don’t say certain things.
The great thing is that instances can be 10000 times more fucked than Reddit if they want. If you get banned you can just join another one.
I’ve been called a Nazi and banned for saying I don’t automatically believe women in rape cases and pointed out it was abused.
This place is ultra ban happy and sensitive if you don’t pass the progressive purity test.
This place? Which place? Because there is no “this place” for lemmy since you can join or make many instances.
Yeah it’s definitely not the same 6 instances over and over again.
More info needed
I simply disagreed with Israel and the over all support from the Jewish community. I’m from a people of genocide. So I understand where they are coming from. But it’s an endless cycle of death if no one is willing to give up the hate. And I got banned for talking about it plainly. So I don’t try to bring it up anymore.
At one point while I was still on Reddit I learned that there was another site that indexed the users with the highest post and comment scores. I looked at the top of the list and saw accounts that were relentless repost monsters. I went ahead and blocked all of them, and my Reddit experience immediately improved, as I stopped seeing the exact same shit reposted over and over, day after day. Then the API-ocalypse came, and I walked away and never looked back.
i actually knew one of these powerusers in the early 2010s. he had leukemia, and i signed up to be a match to donate spinal marrow for him. i visited him in the hospital a bunch. he hasn’t acknowledged me since. that was a real bummer, but, i tend to see friends where they don’t exist so that might be on me.
i am a little bummed that i got permabanned just because i was so close to all of the reddit founders and early employees. i personally prevented alexis from getting arrested for trying to openly smoke weed on the street in pittsburgh when it was still the kind of thing that got you put in prison for a few years if your skin is darker than popcorn.
steve huffman in particular is a shitter and always has been. think of that kid you knew growing up who would make up that his dad worked at SEGA and that Goku was going to be in the next Sonic game — that’s spez, still, to this day. he is “mr. namedropper.” steve, genuinely, i do not care that you saw Beyoncé at the airport.
ETA: since people are being weird about phrasing, i signed up to be a match. his alias back then was Dacvac. i literally sat in bars and watched him mod /r/pics on an iPad. believe me or don’t, i’m just some schmoe online after all.
Idek what reddits target audience is anymore seems to be chronically online teen girls typically on snark/fanfic social media pages are becoming the majority, all they talk about is random drama and reality shows so they arent getting banned for saying stuff lol
believe me or don’t
It doesnt really matter either way but I’m inclined to believe you because you aren’t exactly going to get kudos for being close to reddit founders on the fediverse so this is more like a confession than a brag. FWIW I enjoyed the context.
he had leukemia, and i signed up to donate spinal marrow for him.
if you had actually donated bone marrow, you would know that’s not how this works.
i had signed up to see if I am a match, which i would have donated if i had been selected. please show me where i mentioned actually donating bone marrow.
That sounds quite different. Wording matters, especially in times of bot posts and clout posts.
Also, no one signs up to be tested for a match with a specific person, not at those odds. So your new wording still doesn’t reflect how typisation (not sure about that word) is done.
The fuck? Yes it does, I lost a close friend to leukemia, and a ton of us went in to see if we would match with him. I don’t know where you got your info from but you %100 can do this. It works the same damn way with organ donating as well.
That sounds like it must’ve been rough. I’m sorry for your loss.
I don’t wish that shit even on people I don’t like, watching him go from a big happy guy who was 3 years from retirement to a skeleton in like 4 months was devastating. Adult leukemia is such a fucked up thing. He didn’t even know he had it until it was to late. Any time my wife and I, and his wife go out to our favorite Mexican restaurant, it’s like a nice little reminder he is with us still joking and eating the hottest salsa they make. I really miss him, but do remember the fun years we had with him. Really sucks he’s gone though.
Get your blood tested on a regular people, it might save your life.
I am sorry but you misunderstood the process. You do not check whether you match with a specific patient, but rather typisation is done to add potential donors to a larger database, from which hopefully a donor match is already available even before, because the chances for a match are so low that you can have a couple million people checked until you find a match. This is not blood groups.
Not even close, we worked with his doc and all had HLA tests done to see if we were a match for him. They also did the larger registery match list as well, but saying we didn’t is bullshit.
It seems the doc validated your feelings that you wanted to help your friend then, but also set you up for disappointment by not telling you the odds, and that you were much more likely to be a match for some complete stranger.
The hell you on about? People do that all the time.
I’m part of a big group now that is in a pool doctors all over the US can check to see if they can find a match for people, because a friend of mine died from leukemia a long time ago. They couldn’t find a match for him, but maybe I can match with someone else someday.
BTW, gonna shamelessly plug NMDP. They do good work.
See you mentioned the important bit: we get checked to be in a large database pool for potential patients. Not to match with a specific friend, because as nice as that would be, it is very unlikely to ever happen.
So? There’s no harm in trying anyways. Why are you so against a small test on the off-chance it could save a friend’s life? It’s not as if you’re being asked to submit a whole kidney for testing or something.
Jesus fucking christ, shut the fuck up.
your continued effort in this conversation is admirable and also an admission…
Interesting… Can anyone verify one way or another?
Who fucking cares?
Yes, those people who know how bone marrow type matching works, and what the odds are. Also, OC has confirmed in their response that they didn’t get to the point of a donation. And found better - albeit not entirely correct - wording for the process they allegedly signed up for.
Stop doubling down on stupid shit and admit that you fucked up. It’s not that hard.
Hmph. As a one time mod or top mod of several “default” subs I can confirm that the image is true.
I’ve been a mod of several niche subreddits and entire reddit is absolute 100% gamed and astroturfed. Being a mod is incredibly lucrative to the point that’s full career for many mods.
In all fairness it was bound to happen and it’s similar on all social media groups. The power and lack of transparency makes it incredibly easy to start profiting of your positions even when the goal is noble at first. There’s this great podcast on cat drug black markets which perfectly illustrates this.
I find it funny seeing people complain about LLM hallucination and inaccuracy turn around and prefix
site:reddit.comto their search queries in pure, blissful ignorance.I remember there was a guy making 6 figures in the CSGO community by posting ads for gambling sites disguised as memes.
If you assume they don’t have multiple accounts
I would love to see a Reddit stylometric analysis
