Well sounds like the Democratic leadership to aggressively court disgruntled voters and listening and addressing their concerns is off to a great start with this.

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        Um Ackshually, he doesn’t seem to be taking in big $, at least according to his financial disclosures (PDF). Most recent estimates of his net worth are in the $7 million range, but that also counts his house in Park Slope, which is probably worth over $3mil now but I doubt he paid that. And a bunch more is in his retirement account. He’s not struggling by any means, but he doesn’t have “Fuck You” money like Elon has.

        There are a lot of memes going around about how rich some of these politicians are but they are mostly fake

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    Every one of the fucking rotating villains needs to go. You vote for any of that shit, you’re out.

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    I used to think it was Russia that had infiltrated US politics. I mean it did, but Israel got there first.

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      The US also got there first. Sure there are outside forces acting on it but let’s be real, they have a lot more control over themselves than this and choose to be shit.

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      Israel, Russia, Trendy Aqua, whatever. Ultimately the USA has failed to maintain its obligations to civil society, allowing those who operate the mechanisms of power and policy to be susceptible to such exploitation. Classic blunder.

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      Yes but look at the long game. Imagine what happens when we lose relevance. It’ll be Israel vs Russia.

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    Guys, you just don’t understand. His job, as he stated, is “to fight like hell for Israel.” This other stuff is just peanuts for him.

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    Ain’t it weird that we can all see these politicians that make weird, nonsensical decisions like Schumer does are Israeli plants, but the politicians who sit right beside them everyday when they go to work can’t? Either they are willingly stupid or just trying to play dumb in our faces.

    ICE is a domestic terrorist organization. Anyone who even conceives of throwing more money at it or thinking these animals just have to be “trained” is not living in a state of reality. ICE agents act exactly like the cartels and do not value human life. They are damaged goods, who come from a different culture, that are not compatible with American society. The only solution for them is hard therapy and those dogs are too far gone for that.

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      Did you ever watch parks and rec? Do you remember the episode where Ben is working on a senatorial campaign and the Senator is essentially a robot? He comes out, makes some generic statements on camera, says a few scripted lines to the people around him “stay cool, it’s a scorcher out there!”, and then goes into a room and stares blankly at a wall until they need him for something else.

      That is essentially what a good portion of our politicians are like. They make no decisions. They have no opinions or thoughts of their own. They are surrounded by handlers every day who tell them what to wear, where to go, what to say, and how to vote. They have zero autonomy of their own. And unfortunately, this is far more apparent on the left rather than the right. I don’t get why people are surprised that the Dem leadership has been so ineffectual; it’s essentially just a collection of cardboard cutouts with a voice recorder going “When they go low, we go high!”

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    Yeah this clown and like half the Dem establishment needs to go. Maybe more than half. I’m not one for the “both parties are the same” bullshit, but between the enablements and the not listening to constituents, it is clear that many of these people are incapable of performing the duties for which they were elected.

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    The DNC is controlled opposition and the fact that centrists are in denial about it puts all of us in great peril.

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        I dunno, even if they aren’t, they are so ineffective that they kinda are doing that anyway

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          When you’ve got one side that mostly follows the rules and one side that mostly cheats, the side that cheats will usually win.

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            But the side that mostly follows the rules is also just handing the cheating side unearned Victoria over and over again.

            Scummer is rolling over on his already shitty appeasement offer.

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              Shumer’s perspective is to try and get what he realistically can get. He could stand his ground and say “defund ICE” but it would have 0% chance of success. He believes if he can negotiate and get even 1 of 10 requests fulfilled, then that is better than nothing. With Republicans having the government trifecta, there is little leverage to get any concessions.

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                No, it’s not his perspective. He’s not fighting for Us. He’s an awful fucking negotiator. He gives his “final offer” as his opening bid, then continues to negotiate against himself from there.

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                  He gives his “final offer” as his opening bid, then continues to negotiate against himself from there.

                  Normally I would agree with you, but shooting high with demands largely just leaves the right being unwilling to even talk about negotiating. This is what they did with the original 10 demands Democrats made.

                  https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/ridiculous-republicans-reject-dems-10-demands-for-dhs-reforms

                  Proposals put forward have to be tempting enough to pull individual Republicans to negotiate.

                  He thinks he’s safe from the jackboots.

                  He’s gotten multiple threats on his life including bomb threats to his office in December. He is very aware he isn’t safe.

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            Most of the Dems aren’t really trying to follow rules or not tho. They’re just kinda sitting there watching it all happen.

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              Realistically what do they have the power to do that they aren’t doing? Republicans have control of the House, Senate, Judiciary and 27 state governorships.

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                Realistically what do they have the power to do that they aren’t doing?

                Off the top of my head: Not support the funding of the Gestapo. That would be an excellent place to start.

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                  Okay, let’s say they stand their ground and say “zero DHS funding”. They don’t have the votes to stop it and it gets funded anyway, right?

                  BUT, if they can negotiate to give something to peel off a few Republican votes in exchange for things like investigations into the killings of Good and Pretti, body cams on ICE, and no face masks for ICE? Isn’t that better than nothing?

                  Disagree all you want about it tactically, but at least you recognize the logic, right?

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                No facts or historical perspective here, only “both sides same” on .world

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        Even if they aren’t controlled opposition and just completely incompetent, worthless, hypocritical assholes, their actions results in the same so F these guys.

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              Israel is explicitly a Jewish ethnostste and claims to be the homeland of all Jews. That link is literally in Israel’s founding documents. You might as well complain about linking the Vatican to Catholicism.

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                Israel is explicitly a Jewish ethnostste and claims to be the homeland of all Jews

                25% of Israel is not Jewish. The land is also sacred to other faiths.

                You might as well complain about linking the Vatican to Catholicism.

                If the Pope started killing residents of Rome and expanding the Vatican into Borgo then I would blame the Pope, not Catholics in general.

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              That has been the position of nearly every US politician in both parties for the last 40 years. He also calls for a real ceasefire and a two party state, recognizing Palestine has just as much right to statehood as Israel.

              Meanwhile when Trump was asked if it’s his job to uphold the Constitution, he said " I don’t know".

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                  Fo now we all have exactly two choices: Democrats or Republicans. Shumer or Trump. Any third option is an illusion or a lie.

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              By your logic, AIPAC is running the government based on how much they donate. If you are being logically consistent then you should also believe realtors are running the country.

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                  The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of my people. I am the farthest from a bootlicker as you can get. Keeping the center left and the far left fighting is exactly what the Nazis want, because we can’t beat them unless we fight together.

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                …they kinda fucking are lmfao. Realtors play a role in property ownership. They benefit from things like… wealthy people buying real estate to rent out.

                Anyway. Let’s not act like publicly visible donations are (the government of) Israel’s only vector for bribing and influencing US politicians.

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                  Lol, you’re right about the wealthy hoarding land. My point is that it would sound weird to say “the government is run by big realty!”

                  It’s true that there is a lot of dark money, but by definition that is nearly impossible to attribute a source. All we can do is speculate.

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        No, proven fact. Proven again and again and again.

        What is preventing you from knowing what your eyes can see?

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          The Washington Generals were controlled opposition for the Harlem Globetrotters. They never actually tried to win.

          Democrats do try to win and succeed about half the time. What my eyes see is that Republicans don’t want Democrats around to stop them from enacting more fascist policies. Democrats so far are one of the only major obstacles to that end.

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            If that obstacle is a speed bump that just lies there while it’s rolled over then sure.

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                Well they could have held up funding the budget, easily. They had that power and they pissed it away for nothing.

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                  Well they could have held up funding the entire budget, easily.

                  You mean through government shut down? That has consequences. People that depend on government benefits lose their support. Government workers can’t pay their rent/mortgage. Meanwhile the Republicans will steal funding from wherever to make sure ICE doesn’t miss a dime. Is that worth the sacrifice? It’s easy to say yes when you aren’t the one making that sacrifice.

                  They could also constantly bring up impeachment votes for trump and his appointees to get the republicans on camera backing unpopular actions up.

                  There is a fundamental thing about the MAGA mindset that we all need to understand. When Republicans get caught lying, cheating, and stealing they DONT CARE. They assume all politicians do this regardless of party. It is irrelevant as long as the politician pushed the policies they want. GOP support of Trump didn’t drop a bit during either impeachment (and in fact went up following the first one).

                  I see pro AIPAC stuff

                  No you don’t. You see anti-blaming-the-jews stuff. It’s probably been months but I’ve argued heavily in the past for an independent Palestinian state and for Israel to stop it’s genocide.

                  You see me as running interference for failure, but I see you and others as visualizing success that simply isn’t possible in the real world. Republicans control all three branches of the government and the President has his own personal army bent on installing their fascist dictator. The idea that show impeachment trials or protest votes are going to make any difference is laughable.

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        If you don’t have at least one of the phrases “controlled opposition” or “manufactured consent” in your comment, you’re not really a good bootlicker for left-wing authoritarians.

        In b4 “All authoritarians are right-wing” and “No True Communist” objections.