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      Idk man. I support trans kids but I don’t want to show favoritism. Why is there a list of transkids? Honest question I don’t understand. dont parents sell at work and in front of stores and stuff? Would this alienate them from their peers somehow?

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        Modern scouts sell both in person and online

        I’m not sure how it would alienate them. Being different is already alienating.

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          For sure, thanks for the link.

          It’s been ages since I had girls scout cookies. My nearest comparison for selling cookies are those old competitive fundraisers school used to do an you get rewards.

          It was really competitive at my school

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    As an Eagle Scout, good. They realize that they teach generations of young people how to be good people and stand up when the time calls them to stand up? Do they think we’ll stay quiet if they give into fascists?

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    I got a lot of badges when I was a scout. Didn’t have to use my penis for any of them.

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    Doesn’t the SecDef have more important things to do right now? Like fight a war no one but his boss wanted?

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      Doesn’t the SecDef have more important things to do right now?

      More important than thinking about children’s genitals?

      He’s in the GOP. So no.

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      On the one hand, yes, but on the other, he doesn’t exactly have the skillset to run any department let alone the DoD(W)

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    Let the little children come to me. And do not forbid them, for such is the kingdom of heaven.

    The church is just unrecognizable from how I was raised. But I do suspect it will be a religious push, not a scientific one, that sees us on the other side of all this. That’s just how humans do.

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    Looks like the DoD / DoW will be cutting its ties with Scouting America then, if what that weirdo said was true.

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      Maybe they’ll start a new organization, not only for Trump fans, but specifically for the Youth. Where have I heard that idea before?

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    This is what I was saying last Friday when the memo dropped. The memo was a nothing burger. Functionally nothing changed about the program. Hegseth got nothing he wanted.

    People online just can’t help themselves from losing their minds. Literally anything can make people lose their minds. A headline could be “Hegseth declare that all banana splits served to troops be gendered as male” and y’all would lose your minds like clockwork.

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      “Hegseth declare that all banana splits served to troops be gendered as male”

      Yeah, I would absolutely take issue with the head of a government institution saying something like that. That is a bonkers thing to say as a public official and should invoke some kind of mental health check.

      I’m aware Hegseth is just posturing for brownie points with this Scouts thing, but this kind of behavior should not be normalized. I still remember when Howard Dean lost his bid to be a presidential candidate because he got too excited during a speech.

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        Yeah, I would absolutely take issue with the head of a government institution saying something like that.

        Yeah. He knows that. That’s exactly why he does it. How do y’all not know their playbook by now? There are only two plays.

        1. Do evil Nazi shit.
        2. Say stupid shit online to keep the press and liberal Internet circles distracted from the evil Nazi shit.

        That’s the whole playbook.

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          This is gibberish.

          1. Do evil Nazi shit.
          2. Say evil Nazi shit online to… distract people from the evil Nazi shit?

          That’s not a playbook. That’s an evil Nazi doing evil Nazi shit and then never letting us forget that he’s an evil Nazi.

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            But while you should focus on the no. 1 stuff, you are far too easily distracted by the no. 2 stuff.

            The Scouts news this weekend is a perfect example. Functionally nothing changed in the program, but they are able to make you go insane like a puppet.

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              It’s a signal for what they want to do to the program, and the government has a lot of ways to pressure Scouts to make it happen. It’s a distraction until it becomes reality, like all the other evil Nazi shit they do. This is how they signal their future plans, just like forcing us out of sports and forcing us into the wrong bathroom and taking away our identification paperwork and putting us in men’s prisons and then taking away our hormones when we’re in prison. They push push push until they get what they want.

              They’re evil Nazis and they want to exterminate all trans people. This is just another thing they want to do, and if we let them, they will.

              But I’m just a stupid fucking puppet, what the fuck do I know?

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      They didn’t change much, but there were changes made and not insignificant ones

      They have done away with the Citizenship in Society merit badge, which was a relatively new badge, but was also a required badge to earn eagle. This was a badge that basically focused on the importance of DEI.

      They’ve also agreed to add a “military service” merit badge. Not a whole lot of details yet about what exactly that will entail or if it will be a required badge or not.

      It also sounds like they’ll be making youths register accordingly to their biological gender as opposed to the one they actually identify as, and will need to use facilities like bathrooms and share tents and such with other scouts that corresponds to that.

      It’s not massive changes, but it’s certainly enough that you should be pissed about them. And hegseth has indicated he wants to reevaluate in a few months and likely will be pushing for even more changes.

      I’m an eagle scout, I’m fucking pissed about this, it goes against all of the good values I learned from scouts for them to give into this pressure, and I’m sure that when kegsbreath comes back around in 6 months or so they’ll cave even more.

      I’m sending my eagle medal back in protest.

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          Also thank you for showing real scout spirit and taking this seriously.

          I’ve been talking to a lot of other eagles and other former scouts, and so far none of them have been happy about this. I have a couple other people also planning to return their medals, and a few who can’t find their medals or who are (understandably) reluctant to do so but are at least planning to write some letters and make some noise over this.

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          I don’t have a specific link to share, I’ve been following this whole situation for a few weeks now since it was all first announced. There’s a lot of articles being written about it now, your best bet is probably just to see what your favorite trusted news sources are saying.

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        They did away with one merit badge and added one elective. “DEI” is baked throughout the scout program and basically all the topics covered in that one merit badge are covered in lots of other parts the program. Including the whole point of the scout law.

        You are losing your mind over nothing. Get a grip.

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          “DEI” is baked throughout the scout program

          And do you really think that they’re not going to try to come after that too? They’re already leaving the door open for them to come back and put more pressure on scouting in a few months, and Drinky Pete has pretty clearly said that he hopes the organization will go back to being the boy scouts.

          When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

          Also really convenient of you to just ignore the concerns about trans youths. I’m sure you’re not pushing an agenda here /s

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            Yes, I do think they are dropping this issue. I think Hegseth realized that he wasn’t going to get the traction on this he wanted so he agreed a nothing burger and declared victory for himself.

            I’m not ignoring the concerns of the Trans youth, it’s just that the “demands” won’t actually change them. The BSA has already issued a statement that trans youth are still welcome in scouting. No one is going to be checking anyone’s birth certificates. Literally nothing changed.

            Get a grip.

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              Maybe you’re right, and I’ll have sent my medal away for nothing, in which case I’m down a prized but essentially useless trinket.

              Or maybe I’m right, in which case I’m either ridding myself of a symbol of an organization I’ll no longer wish to be associated with soon, or maybe, just maybe I’m doing something that helps to prevent that from happening.

              If you’re right, I’ll feel a little silly and otherwise continue my life as normal, content that I at least stood up for something I believe in.

              But what will you do if I’m right? How would you feel knowing that you brushed this off as a non-issue if girls and trans youth, and maybe eventually other “undesirables” are eventually kicked out of scouts, when their commitment to dei wavers, and maybe they’re even twisted into a militaristic, nationalist organization like some modern Hitler Youth?

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                I’m not the person your reply is to, but you’re spot on about where this is headed. From the DOD’s initial statement about Scouting America, it’s obvious that they want it to go back to excluding girls from the organization. As a current den leader, I was already dissatisfied with the way the organization is being run, and this is probably the final straw for me to just step away from them completely. Leadership is acting like cowards while also asking for donations. It’s incredibly disappointing.

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      Except there’s the whole “military leader threatens a private organization” thing.