Voting regulation is not a power expressed to Congress (except as related to ensuring no bias in race, age, and gender), so his unilateral action has no basis in law. But, when has a basis in law ever applied to him? Lawful grounds such as ‘consent’ has never applied to him before. Why would it now?

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    Trump doesn’t get to say shit about how the states run their elections. Even if he “Hereby Do Dee-clares” it. /s

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    If this stupid asshole fucks up our awesome voting system (mail-in, thank you very fucking much) in Colorado, he’s going to be even more hated than he is already.

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    I don’t even understand the rhetoric on both sides here. If he puts out an EO about elections? Tough titties. Zero legal force. No court case or nothing needed. The federal executive does not have authority over state matters, full stop, end of, simpoo avv, innit, an’all, est fin, etc.

    It would be like me issuing a declaration that everyone must suck my dick.

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    For states that have had all-mail-in voting for decades now, like Oregon and Washington, this is basically wholesale disenfranchisement of the whole state.

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    To append to my other comment:

    He has even less authority over midterms than he does over the presidential election. Which is to say none, but even indirectly, far less.

    Even if there was a question of negation on state votes for congresspeople, it would not be, in any way shape or form, the executive’s prerogative. It would be each house of Congress itself. It’s like parliament vs the monarch.

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    “If we can’t get it through Congress, there are Legal reasons why this SCAM is not permitted. I will be presenting them shortly, in the form of an Executive Order”

    I’m speechless.

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    Ah, I can see it now.

    • ICE shows up to a purple state voting place on election day.
    • Election monitor says they can’t be there.
    • “Let us in or we kill you for probable cause of terrorism”
    • Someone calls in the neighborhood watch/militia.
    • Someone else calls the cops, thinking they’ll help.
    • ICE barricades the voting place, taking the people inside hostage.
    • Militia and police units outside are locked in a standoff.
    • ICE kills a hostage “for being a terrorist”.
    • Three way fight between ICE, the cops, and the militia.
    • Cops and ICE ultimately overwhelm the militia with superior firepower. A few cops are injured by ICE by accident.
    • Thoughts and prayers are sent.
    • Democrat votes are tossed out in other voting places by ICE for being “terrorist votes”.
    • GOP retains House and Senate with huge lead.
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    Republicans keep pushing for voter ID, but it’s not even clear that it would disproportionately help the GOP anymore. Maybe in the past it did, because people who live in cities with public transportation are less likely to have drivers’ licenses. But the political realignment of the past decade has sorted mostly by education, with low educational attainment going very disproportionately Republican. So now they have the lion’s share of people who can’t get their shit together. Requiring ID for voting (or adding any additional hurdles) will possibly filter out more of their dummies than it does our urbanites.

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      because people who live in cities with public transportation are less likely to have drivers’ licenses.

      He’s not even talking about using driver license because anyone can get one of those. No, he’s talking about proof of citizenship, which will disenfranchise wwwwaaaaayyyyy more people.

      Do you know where your birth certificate is? No? Good luck.

      Does your current name via marriage match what’s on the certificate? No. Get fucked ma’am. We need more future wage slaves babies anyway.

      Don’t have a passport? Sorry, but you’re disenfranchised!

      Oh? You have everything squared away? Right this way Mr. Rich-man! You’re just the person we want to vote since you’ll probably vote for us.

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        Yes, requiring a birth certificate is even more onerous. Again, it’s not clear that this will help Republicans (assuming it ever makes into law). Of course some rich people still vote Republican, but I’m willing to bet that a higher percentage of the population that knows where their birth certificate is votes for Democrats now. Same thing for people who floss regularly, remember their parents’ birthdays, or know how to read a scatter plot.

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          I think the issue is you assume it will be enforced universally. It won’t. It will be dependent on the makeup of the district and the color of the individual voter. It will be up to individuals at polling stations (and any ICE present) whether ‘exceptions’ can be made for people that are ‘obviously citizens but forgot their ID’. Or whether a married woman’s name mismatch is an issue or not based on her skin/hair color and way of speaking. It’s going to be selectively enforced, by design

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            That would be clearly illegal. The courts have have to go along with it, in which case we have bigger problems

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          Right, but a birth certificate is just words on a papet. Republicans will say that is an insufficient link to the person holding it.

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            There aren’t enough people willing to go along with what would be required to bring this to fruition. Trump doesn’t get to decide who is allowed to vote.

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    We’re gonna need a lot of folk from the communuty watching theirs and their neighbor’s polling locations just like any other fledgling failing democtacies

    Here’s a search that’ll hopefully help you find where to volunteer for your local elections if you have the time. There might be a general strike that day so hooefully you can get the day off, or atleast leave work early. If you can’t encourage a cool older relative who never ratted you out to your parents. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+volunteer+at+your+poll&t=fpas&ia=web

    How to organize a rapid response from a very high level with further detailed resources. https://southerncoalition.org/resources/rapid-response-101/

    Good general advice on organizing, also a good resource to find groups near you that are likely aligned. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/organizer-resources