Independently verifiable detail number 28543 showing that Trump and everyone he has appointed are unfit for office, and that no one who voted for him will ever care about, and from which no consequences will ever flow.
I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters. – Mr. Donald J. Trump
Could everyone please stop repeating “nothing will ever come of this” every time fucked up shit happens?
Until someone actually faces consequences, it’s just people spitting truth sadly.
Man I don’t have enough time in the day to be doing that.
I save my cynical outbursts for when he gets caught. And I have reasons, though you may not agree with them.
I think it’s important not to lose sight of the fact that our government is incapable of dispensing consequences to this man, regardless of what he does, regardless of where his loyalties clearly lie, regardless of how he continually works at the destruction of the United States of America. So we’re not surprised at where things are four years from Jan 21 like we were four years from Jan 06.
While we are all tempted by the complacent comfort of “someone in government will handle it” now that he’s actually at the peak of his power, it seems key that we all remember “no one in government handled it” for four years when he was out of power and arguably at his weakest.
They should have left their personal phone at home, and brought a burner. Without the fun apps on it.
The entire Government of Putin is a huge cluster fuck. Send them all to fucking Moscow, one-way.
Looks like Russia won the ideological war and will be exporting authoritarianism to the globe.
They been exporting since the 80’with trump
The main thing to remember about authoritarians is that none have ever been documented to be impervious to small pieces of metal moving at high speed.
Are windows in too?
But they are known to dodge pretty well and only get nicked in the ear 😕
It’s too soon to say conclusively that they all aren’t though, additional testing is required.
Surprisingly enough, it doesn’t really stop them from trying, it only stops individual occurrences. And if the piece of metal only grazes, it often invigorates and galvanizes them
An additional note: for all the people who advocate this approach, very few have actually gone through with it. Perhaps it’d be more successful if all the people who advocate for it actually did it instead of trying to get other people to do it for them.
surprisingly enough, they are in fact physically just like us: just meat
Note to self: before becoming dictator, develop natural immunity to small arms fire. Begin with BB gun?
You’ll shoot your eye out.
Only once, before the immunity kicks in
It might happen twice, but that’s the max, I’m pretty sure.
Well at least the reality denial is checked.
I know my system works, otherwise I wouldn’t be immune to your criticism
Twice*
This isn’t a nationalist idea … the oligarchs have won and are exporting authoritarianism to the globe. Most or the majority of people everywhere just want to have a peaceful life whether they are in the US, Russian, China or anywhere on the globe … it’s oligarchs and wealthy morons that think they can manipulate everyone, everywhere all the time and allow them to become rulers of the universe.
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Are they wrong?
That is being tested right now.
It’s not looking good, bruh.
i’ll have you know that social contract that formed in russia after 90s looks just like that: citizens fuck off from politics in return for some prosperity. every time when russian state expected that that won’t last due to things like 2008 crisis or covid or what have you, they started a war as a distraction and to rally around the flag some nationalists. now they’re on 4th attempt, this one was due to post-covid recession. difference is, this time they were high on their own supply of propaganda and planned accordingly. they also can’t back down because they see it as a weakness, and that would mean a coup
fuck
Nahhhh according to the tankies of .ml, Russia is just trying to export humanity-saving peace, love and socialism but has just been continuously beaten down by the big bad US :(
will be?
They already have — quite successfully.
Hang them all
The French Revolution can’t come back soon enough
Might want to read up on what happened after all that… Because… yeah.
Or even during. People think about Louis XVI getting chopped, but never the people who did the chopping getting chopped x4. And then, yes, Louis XVIII.
The real fruits of the revolution were from the seeds it planted blooming decades later in the Victorian era. Living through it just sounds like it sucked. They were a generation of martyrs for a liberal democratic future they barely got to see the beginnings of.
Well said
Who thinks Putin doesn’t intercept these chats?
I do. Signal encryption is watertight.
Doesn’t matter if you’re using a compromised device. Given the number of people in the group chat, that at least some of them were using personal devices, and all of them are high value targets… I wouldn’t be so confident that this chat wasn’t intercepted.
Unless you’re the Trump admin. Then you just unlock the door and invite them in.
Or, y’know, a random journalist you fatfingered. I wouldn’t really use the word “interception” for either, though.
Who thinks he needs to intercept them?
He was probably told before any of these guys.
That’s treason.
Oh they know. We know.
They know we know.
They know that we know that they know that we know!
Everybody knows.
Nah, treason is now anything that acts against Trump, the sovereign.
The Guy’s name is putin.
Krasnov’s Daddy
Literally zero chance they weren’t monitoring his phone while he was in the country.
Why monitor what he went there to inform them about?
*receive orders about
Who’s to say this member in Russia doesn’t live there…
You jump to the assumption they weren’t on an innocent beach holiday in Russia? You’re paranoid.
I wouldn’t worry so much about monitoring the phone, signal does a good job.
I’d be more worried that they weren’t just given the convo or managed to lift the multi-device QR willingly or subserviently.
I’m shocked…but I’m also not shocked. This has gotten to the point that you think they can’t one up themselves and then they go and do it.
And they do so on a weekly basis if not daily
Jesus fucking Russian assets…
Trump is a Russian asset and the Kremlin dictates U.S. policy.
As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.
Krasnov, destroying America from within since 1987, the best accidental investment Putin ever made. Great success, comrades! 👍
This was all known before, americans still voted for him. This is what they want…
You have been banned from Lemmy.ml
Sounds like a win for platypus.
As a long time poster at all types of Lemmy instances, I still don’t get why people don’t like lemmy.ml
Can someone ELI5?
They are tankies.
tankies are generally people who believe in marxist-leninist, or some other form of socialist beliefs. on its own, it isnt a problem
but these people are also intrinsically gullible consumers and advocates of Russian propaganda, because they cant seem to understand Russia stopped being a socialist country 30-40 years ago, and its just a capitalist mafia state now. But they are programmed to associate their ideology with “The motherland”.
America bad, West bad, NATO bad, therfor, anything that opposes them must be good?
advocate for the people who will kill you without a second thought.
Thats .ml and tankies for you
Hex and grad are tankie instances that are very in your face about it and don’t carry the honor of being “the flagship” instance and as a result were easy to widely defederate from which led to most people here not having strong opinions on it
.ml admins are hardcore tankies, but try to maintain .ml as the flagship and thus are more subtle about their tankieness. Instead opting to just censor any dissenting opinions before things get crazy in threads.
As a result many instances are way more hesitant to actually defed from them like they did the rest of the Tankie Triad, thus leading to more widespread visibility and in turn more widespread dissatisfaction of them by most.
Checkout !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (for those on a .ml account you’ll need to use this link because, ironically, .ml admins censor that comm from you: https://lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) for documented instances of their behavior
How do they get off being the ‘Flagship’ instance then? Should that concern us or is it meh?
I don’t think it can, it’s a flagship because it’s the first instance, being run by the main devs as a demonstration of Lemmy’s capabilities so it’s always on the latest beta version at least.
But, they could just stop using it as a tool to further their own political stances and have it actually be a “generalist” instance. For that though, they’d have to give up being the admins of it, which they’ll probably never do.
It is of concern yes, but maybe if the wider Lemmy-verse defeded from them, like they did Hex and Grad, it would at least be easier to say that their views are not shared by any of us to any newcomers/outsiders by being able to point to a clear and visible action like defederation.
it would at least be easier to say that their views are not shared by any of us to any newcomers/outsiders
Do we need users who cannot mentally separate that?
Damn - as I love Lemmy and believe in the mission it’s hard to square that with tankie devs
One example of this is when I called out some Hexbear users for their bullshit propaganda and then when they started brigading against me and making literal death threats, the .ml mod swooped in, deleted my comments, and gave me a temporary ban. The hexbear users comments remained visible including the death threats.
Rule 1, 2
Bingo
I find you in every thread shitting on ml at the vaguest mention of Russia or China though. Before anyone ever brought up anything related to them. It’s almost like you have an agenda. Or vendetta.
Please show me on this doll where the dirty commies hurt you:
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Russia is communist? You might want to update your maps.
Do you have brainrot or something? What kind of leaps did you go through to come to this conclusion that I have implied this in any way?
I was referring to ml users as “dirty commies”, not Russia.
might want to tell the tankies that too. since most of them seem to always want to play devils advocate for the former communist - now capitalist mafia state.
Hmm yes, how dare I pushback against authoritarian misinformation, propaganda, censorship and toxicity. I do what I can within my power to prevent (or rather having it get worse I should say)the Lemmy-verse from garnering a rep outside for being “That Tankie Place” or worse, Voat 2.0
I’ve already seen it on Reddit and testimonials here (from those that actually tried to give it another shot, who knows how many won’t ever come back) “I tried that Lemmy place, but it was just a bunch of tankies” is not a pleasant comment to read outside the Lemmy-verse
What I’ve documented on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works is but a mere fraction of the crap they pull and focused on just .ml
Btw, tankies are authoritarian “communists”
Right. And I’m on board with that and that’s not what I am saying. If I mention “Russia bad” in a thread, without any ml presence in the whole post, I don’t expect someone to derail my thread with their anti-ml agenda. Why not keep it there where it’s relevant: an actual ml poster excusing Russia’s behaviour?
Or, as you do, in your welcome messages to new users.
They are a minority that have opposing views. Just as any ideology, they have flaws and they just accept those flaws with open arms.
You could go there and say: china owns 80% of cobalt companies in Congo. You’d get banned.
Can say that china has far higher inequality than the EU. You’d get banned.
You could say that the Chinese government subsidising smartphone and electric vehicle market in china is trickle down economics. You’d get banned. (I get cheap high quality stuff because Chinese citizens their taxes pay for the profit margins of the Chinese shareholders.)
You’d get banned.
I honestly just wonder if they are economically illiterate morons, to be honest ☺️
They try to play themselves off as communists but I can’t say I’ve ever seen a single one of them make a legitimate comment about communist ideals. What they really are is a propaganda mouthpiece for the Chinese and Russian governments.
Historically, groups that have “communist” in their name have been Soviet mouthpieces. Not all of them, and the ideology doesn’t require it by any means, but it happened a lot. Conversely, if they had “socialist” in their name, they were more likely to want nothing to do with that shit.
It’s full of “communists” that blindly excuse every damn thing that states like China and Russia do just because they dress themselves in red, or used to, and oppose everything western in an attempt to be “anti-imperialist”, ignoring what Russia is doing to Ukraine at this very moment. Hypocrites and dogmatic ideologues who can’t see nuance in anything.
"When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called “the People’s Stick”. - Mikhail Bakunin
No I’m pretty sure they would support Daddy putin controlling amerikkka
Lol I wear my ban with pride. All you have to do is go over there and use the word ‘tankie’. They really don’t like that word for some reason.
next step is get banned from progressive politics
a ml proxy hidden in plain sight
Then this is for you!
I need to acquire mine at some point
I’ll treasure it!
And yet the worst of them link to tankie.tube videos. Fuggin… I dunno.
Got banned there by a dude with anarcho in his name. Cherry on top
Turns our he’s just really into spiders and is also dyslexic.
How do they fell about wankie?
Double dare you to find out
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God dammit, the ads finally found their way to Lemmy
Fucking traitor scum.
Full texts got released! See update on the Atlantic!
