A republican flip flopping on states rights again? I’m shocked.
'We have the right to tell you what to do. You cannot tell us what to do."
Fucking do it already, I’m tired of the roller coaster. Let them have their MAGA utopia of Dumbfuckistan and leave the rest of us be to maybe finally start fixing things that have been broken for half a century.
California would do so much better on its own I feel like
5th largest economy on the planet by itself.
Russia has a smaller economy. Go ahead. Make it without us. Dumb fucks.
Can… can Washington come? The western half at least?
Washington and Oregon are basically Very Northern California.
Most of the Western states would probably end up joining overall. I dont see Idaho lasting too long being one of the few remaining states that far west for example.
Utah and Idaho definitely wouldn’t join California. Both are heavily Mormon/religious, conservative, and backward. Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada probably would.
Artillery and attacks on infrastructure can be very persuasive. We dont need the people just the raw resources.
Blue states pay more in taxes than they receive, and vice versa with red states. We are literally funding them dragging us all backwards.
If it weren’t mainly a rural vs. urban split, I’d be all for the fascists getting their own country to ruin. But we’re too spread out to make it feasible.
If it weren’t mainly a rural vs. urban split, I
Yeah, we’d have to move them somewhere, perhaps down South… Make the link around say Virginia… Sounds familiar, but I can’t lay my finger on it…
Yeah, we’d essentially become three countries - the West, the East, and the No-Go Zone in the middle. Just get us New Mexicans to somewhere decent before all borders close.
Brother we don’t even like the old Mexicans. You’ll probably be in cuffs before someone can find the crayons to explain to trump the difference between Mexico and New Mexico.
😂 oh boy true
You could all just join Canada if you want to stay connected.
As a Minnesotan. Would love to.
Canada could really use an injection of progressive minded people too, sounds like a win-win.
About the only thing that would make me happier than to have the entire pacific west coast secede and create a sovereign nation would be for Trump to do it for us so we don’t have to fight a war over it. You want us gone? Please, show us the exit, we’ll be on our way. No takebacksies.
This made me feel good to think about. And the downsides about why we could never do it are now equally matched and going to happen anyway.
Only issue would be public health stuff, but that requires cooperation across the board.
I’m hoping for Cascadia.
Can the Northeast join? No one in MA for example wants to be part of MAGA Land.
Iirc one of
MAME electoral votes will go to Trump, ao nlt really no-oneEdit: I’m stupid. MA is Massachusetts which is blue af (every county iirc). Maine is ME
You mean Maine? MA doesn’t split.
I am too confidently incorrect sometimes. I’m not from the US, I thought you meant Maine.
Maine is, sadly, ME. It’s very weird. I think MN is Minnesota even tho MI feels more sensible but it’s Michigan. I think they did their best given what they had to work with :(
Too many M states, shoulda diversified.
Facts
It would be great if Canada could peacefully annex “America” and leave 4th World Dumbfuckistan to themselves.
What did Colorado ever do to deserve this?
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Lauren Boebert
And we are very sorry…
Don’t feel too bad my district gave us Elise Stefanik. She may not be as in your face with her crazy, but she’s possibly more dangerous.
Ooo. Maybe she should be secretary of the treasury.
I’m hoping Cascadia finally gets realized. I want to uninvite Idaho, though.
Boise is pretty rad tho
Too bad you guys and Idaho are gonna be New NorCal.
We already are already. (Seattle)
They can enjoy both potatoes and Drag Queen Story Time.
Don’t threaten me with a good country.
Can Canada take the coastal states?
Can Minnesota come along too? We’re basically in Canada here already.
Yes. But please make sure to throw away your trash before you come live with us.
Only if you bring a hot dish.
Mac and cheese please
I think the Canadians call that “Kraft Dinner”.
You folks talk with a Canadian dialect.
I would have imagined you Americans would have liked your country united as it was through your whole lives. Looking at the comments tho… Instead of WW3 we’ll see US Civil War 2?
Why not both?
I’m sure the blue states won’t have an issue losing the subsidies-dependent red states. I wonder where flyover country wants to get the money from to keep up their lifestyle.
They’ll get it from Russian and Saudi oligarchs, maybe.
Good luck with that.
Predictable. The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
I suspect it’s because for this brief period of time, anyway, it’s hard for them to avoid just how HATED they and their precious golden donvict truly are. They thought they’d “win” and all the normal Americans around them would just disappear. And yet, Karens like Green continue to get confronted by normal people.
Why so angry? It’s all they know…
The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?
Because we’ve stolen their martyrdom from them by losing.
This is outrageously anecdotal but the trumpers I know were all grins on the day after until they realized we weren’t gonna just get over this and they just labeled themselves. They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore
Yeah, the Professional Left did an entire section about this and they mentioned the case where some husband is completely gobsmacked that his wife filed for divorce.
But yeah, I’ve seen the same thing and heard about it from others. Lots of quiet interactions about how so and so is a big proponent of donvict; don’t invite him/her to {whatever social function}.
The refrain of “yeah, but let’s just agree to disagree” - I can see why many people, especially those most at risk thanks to what they wan, are thinking: “YEAH, FUCK THAT. You just voted to harm me, and you want to act like it’s just a disagreement?”
Donvict is the only good name for him anybody has come up with. Good job.
I mean… as long as California takes Colorado and New Mexico with it, I see no real issues with that. We get the economy, the nature, and the nukes.
Aren’t the nukes in Montana and the dakotas? Though I’m under the impression we also keep some silos in the rural northeast.
Here is a handy map of some of our nukes as of 2006 https://uploads.fas.org/sites/4/NotebookMap.pdf
But also? The expertise to maintain and build nukes are very much California and New Mexico as that is where the three major NNSA labs and their support facilities are.
Did not expect the distribution to be like that, especially with blue states having nearly as many as red and swing states combined. For anyone curious: Blue state nukes-4324 Red state nukes-2266 Swing state nukes-2454
Washington really surprised me but it makes a lot of sense actually. I knew there were none at Wright patt because you learn that growing up in Dayton, they can’t risk the aliens.
And yeah I knew albequerque is one of the most critical cities for our ability to project nuclear force and that we make and test them in New Mexico and that Colorado is home to norad command. I just had also thought there were some hidden in Appalachia in upstate New York or something or one of the other eastern mountain ranges
Swing states might have voted Trump, but those coward tards would follow the money in a secession situation, so I think the majority and their nukes would be on the sane blue side
Please don’t use ableist hate speech.
Eh, k. Coward garbage humans.* FTFY.
Yep. Best Christmas present they could offer.
Do it. Push her harder.
Something that I learned recently makes this flag make absolutely no sense.
The bear on the flag of The Republic of California, is extinct, and has been since the 1920s. Therefore in the Fallout universe, that bear is also extinct. None of them could have mutated into the two headed version. Where the heck did this flag come from?
They still would have had the original California flag; the NCR flag would have been based on it, probably to deliberately harken back to the time before the restructuring of the country into the 13 Commonwealths divided the state in two
We’ll bring along Oregon and Washington, at least the west halves, and call the country the Collective of American States.
Sounds good to my rainy ears here in Seattle 😎
Lets go for the Fallout 2 version I want to annoy everyone.
I have never seen this version before. This flag makes even less sense than the standard NCR flag.
Its from Fallout 2 and was used in some Fallout New Vegas concept art.
Uh oh… Looks like the nation cheated on its spouse at a cross fit?
I’m literally moving to a blue state. The one good idea she had I beat her to it. Peace idiots.
